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Welcome to the We Are Human Leaders podcast. We have big, candid and impactful conversations about human-centered leadership at work and beyond. We focus on what’s novel: new takes on leadership, new research and insights, new ways of looking at things.

We share stories, data, inspiration and insight in conversations designed to spark ‘aha’ moments – and empower you and other Human Leaders to create change, lead authentically and build workplaces where people thrive.

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Daniel Goleman •

Dr Kirstin Ferguson •

Urs Koenig •

Tracey Spicer •

Dr Huggy Rao •

Meisha-Ann Martin •

Martin Gutmann •

Iman Obou •

Amy Edmondson • Daniel Goleman • Dr Kirstin Ferguson • Urs Koenig • Tracey Spicer • Dr Huggy Rao • Meisha-Ann Martin • Martin Gutmann • Iman Obou •

Our incredible guests so far include

Dr Michele Lamont •

Craig Foster •

Lily Zheng •

Jeremy Utley •

Alex Soojung-Kim Pang •

Kim Scott •

Dr John Chan •

Claude Silver •

Ron Carruci •

Ashton Applewhite •

Dr David Weiss •

Dr Jonathan Fisher •

Morra Aarons-Mele •

Dr Michele Lamont • Craig Foster • Lily Zheng • Jeremy Utley • Alex Soojung-Kim Pang • Kim Scott • Dr John Chan • Claude Silver • Ron Carruci • Ashton Applewhite • Dr David Weiss • Dr Jonathan Fisher • Morra Aarons-Mele •

George Kohlriesser •

Ellen Langer •

Garry Ridge •

Louise Evans •

Charlie Sull •

Dr Delia McCabe •

Megumi Miki •

Mandar Apte •

Hema Vyas •

George Kohlriesser • Ellen Langer • Garry Ridge • Louise Evans • Charlie Sull • Dr Delia McCabe • Megumi Miki • Mandar Apte • Hema Vyas •

Sleep Better, Live and Lead Better with Dr Els van der Helm
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

Sleep Better, Live and Lead Better with Dr Els van der Helm

Sleep is a universal experience for humans. It’s also universally debated: how much sleep should we really be getting?

Why is healthy sleep essential to great leadership and a great life? And, what can we do to improve our sleep?

In this episode, we speak with renowned sleep neuroscientist and expert in sleep leadership Dr. Els van der Helm. Els has spent over two decades studying the powerful link between sleep and high performance.

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How to Fasttrack Your Success With Mentoring with Dr Ruth Gotian
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

How to Fasttrack Your Success With Mentoring with Dr Ruth Gotian

How successful could you become with the right mentors in your corner?

In this episode, Dr Ruth Gotian shares with us the power of mentoring to drive success. We learn how mentoring can transform your mindset and shift your perspective on what success can look like for you, and how to go about making your dream a reality. 

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From Survive to Thrive: How to Live A Truly Great Life with Sarah Grynberg
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

From Survive to Thrive: How to Live A Truly Great Life with Sarah Grynberg

What would it mean to you to live a life of Greatness? 
Greatness is something we can all achieve, if we get crystal clear on what greatness means today. And in today’s conversation with sit down with Author of ‘Living a Life of Greatness, Sarah Grynberg to understand just how we do this.

Sarah defines Greatness as an interior state, one where through shifts in our thoughts, behaviors and daily practices we can achieve our own true and authentic potential - however that looks for us.

Let’s learn more about how to curate a life of Greatness together!

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Fierce Yet Kind: The Power of Self-Compassion with Amy Finlay-Jones
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

Fierce Yet Kind: The Power of Self-Compassion with Amy Finlay-Jones

The term self compassion has evolved from a concept that lurked at the fringes of leadership, right into the mainstream of what it means to be a modern leader. And research shows it’s an essential attribute for all leaders who want to create healthy work environments and experience more fulfilment in life.

In this episode we're are talking to global expert Amy Finlay Jones to learn why self-compassion is much more than a buzzword – and how to ensure cultivating self-compassion is not another stressful ‘to do’ but an empowering, practical and evolving journey. 

Amy’s teaching draws on many years of personal practice, her passion for social justice and activism, and her lived experience of long-term chronic illness.

We’ve wanted to bring this topic to We Are Human Leaders for a long time, now let's dive

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Just Ask: The Surprising Key to Better Relationships with Jeff Wetzler
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

Just Ask: The Surprising Key to Better Relationships with Jeff Wetzler

The quality of your questions really does determine the quality of connection in ALL of your relationships?

So how do we ASK better questions and become more attuned to ready the cues from those around us to improve our relationships?

We asked Dr Jeff Wetzler to help us learn this by unpacking his recent book Ask: Tap Into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs In Leadership and Life.

Join us in this illuminating conversation that will be sure to up-level your relationships through better communication.

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How To Work With Difficult People with Amy Gallo
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

How To Work With Difficult People with Amy Gallo

Working with difficult people can be one of the most challenging things we all face at one point or another in our career.

So how do we navigate difficult people in a way that’s productive and maintains our own sanity? We explore just this with workplace conflict expert Amy Gallo.

In this podcast episode we unpack the 8 Archetypes of difficult people at work from Amy’s brilliant book ‘Getting Along: How to Work with Anyone (Even Difficult People)’ published by Harvard Business Press. In particular, we explore how to deal with passive aggressive people and victim mentality in ourselves and those around us.

We explore how we’re becoming more conflict adverse in our workplace relationships, and beyond, and how we can actually hold space for healthy conflict in our workplace teams and relationships.

This episode is for anyone who has to work closely with others—let’s face it, that’s all of us!

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The 6 Attributes Leaders Must Have in 2025 with Alexis Zahner and Sally Clarke
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

The 6 Attributes Leaders Must Have in 2025 with Alexis Zahner and Sally Clarke

We live in a world that feels so divided. Where cancel culture is rife. And where righteously offering our own opinion rather than trying to find common ground has become the norm.

So how can we learn to Respectfully Disagree to find common ground?

In this conversation Justin Jones-Foso helps us reconnect to our common humanity, and recognise that despite the surface-level differences we each have, be it politically, religiously, culturally – this common humanity is something much much more important and profound. And something we each have a responsibility for acknowledging.

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"I Respectfully Disagree": How to Navigate Conflicting Views with Justin Jones-Fosu
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

"I Respectfully Disagree": How to Navigate Conflicting Views with Justin Jones-Fosu

We live in a world that feels so divided. Where cancel culture is rife. And where righteously offering our own opinion rather than trying to find common ground has become the norm.

So how can we learn to Respectfully Disagree to find common ground?

In this conversation Justin Jones-Foso helps us reconnect to our common humanity, and recognise that despite the surface-level differences we each have, be it politically, religiously, culturally – this common humanity is something much much more important and profound. And something we each have a responsibility for acknowledging.

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The Buddha at Work: Lessons for Leaders from Spirituality with Lodro Rinzler
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

The Buddha at Work: Lessons for Leaders from Spirituality with Lodro Rinzler

When you think of Buddhist meditation, you might not immediately see the connection with great leadership and a healthy workplace culture. And yet, today's guest illuminates just how profound and perhaps even essential a consistent meditation practice is for modern leaders.

And the good news is it's also highly accessible for all of us. In today’s episode we’re speaking with Lodro Rinzler, the award winning author of seven books, including The Buddha Walks Into a Bar, The Buddha Walks Into the Office, and Take Back Your Mind, Buddhist Advice for Anxious Times.

In this conversation, you'll learn a bunch of other benefits, which have less to do with KPIs, And more to do with a more meaningful life.

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Authentic Collaboration: Unlocking Team Brilliance and Creativity with Trish Cerrone & Edward van Luinen
Alexis Zahner Alexis Zahner

Authentic Collaboration: Unlocking Team Brilliance and Creativity with Trish Cerrone & Edward van Luinen

Do you  know what it feels like to collaborate with someone that you didn’t have anything in common with, who seemed the opposite of your personality, who didn’t get your jokes, and quite frankly— probably made your eye twitch on a regular basis? Well our guests today understand this challenge deeply when they came together to collaborate at Walt Disney. They respected each other—but they didn’t want to work together. Only the stakes were high, and they needed to collaborate whether or not they liked or trusted each other. From this experience and surprising success, the Authentic Collaboration model was born. 

In this episode we’re speaking with Edward van Luinen and Tricia Cerrone - two former Walt Disney Imagineering leaders on Authentic Collaboration.

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  • "Heartfelt impact"

    Thank you Alexis and Sally for this inspiring, informative and actionable episode. You truly teach that success doesn’t have to mean disconnect or sacrifice (long-term). Thank you!

    • Kaitlin

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